Mär 10 17:04:04 rdieter	KDE SIG Meeting start, who's present today?
Mär 10 17:04:17 *	rdieter hat das Thema geändert zu: KDE SIG Meeting -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-03-10 -- Init
Mär 10 17:05:03 *	jreznik is here
Mär 10 17:05:14 *	jamundso present
Mär 10 17:05:32 svahl	present
Mär 10 17:07:02 than	present
Mär 10 17:07:23 rdieter	well, we don't have much of an agenda today, so this may well be short.
Mär 10 17:07:38 rdieter	so item 1: agenda, stuff to discuss
Mär 10 17:07:43 *	rdieter hat das Thema geändert zu: KDE SIG Meeting -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-03-10 -- Agenda
Mär 10 17:08:03 rdieter	I guess a brief, fyi, kde-4.2.1 was pushed to updates-testing yesterday
Mär 10 17:08:25 jreznik	status beta freeze
Mär 10 17:09:15 rdieter	ok, beta freeze
Mär 10 17:09:19 *	rdieter hat das Thema geändert zu: KDE SIG Meeting -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-03-10 -- beta freeze
Mär 10 17:10:29 rdieter	any important fixes we should be conerned about getting into the beta?
Mär 10 17:10:44 jreznik	what's the status of f11 blockers?
Mär 10 17:11:34 than	rdieter, do we have the url for f11 blockers?
Mär 10 17:13:12 rdieter	hrm, I assumed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?=F11Blocker would work, but I guess not
Mär 10 17:15:03 than	hm, just got blank page
Mär 10 17:15:04 rdieter	oh, I think F11Blocker is a keyword, not a tracking bug ?
Mär 10 17:15:05 svahl	https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446452
Mär 10 17:15:07 buggbot	Bug 446452: low, low, ---, notting, ASSIGNED, Fedora 11 Blocker
Mär 10 17:16:02 rdieter	yay, thx
Mär 10 17:16:18 jreznik	do we have some blockers?
Mär 10 17:16:42 rdieter	svahl: do you have any sneak-peak iso's for us to test?  (no need to publicize this now)
Mär 10 17:17:17 svahl	no. But I could upload some tonight if there is need to
Mär 10 17:17:18 rdieter	jreznik: nothing kde-related so far that I'm aware of... but we should probably create some.  For example:  artwork, theming
Mär 10 17:17:52 rdieter	svahl: I'd like that, so we can at least do some sanity testing before we release for real.
Mär 10 17:17:53 jreznik	artwork depends on artwork team and they have nothing for now...
Mär 10 17:18:09 rdieter	jreznik: leonidas-backgrounds passed review yesterday
Mär 10 17:18:30 svahl	rdieter, ok. I think i686 should be enough?
Mär 10 17:18:31 jreznik	rdieter: yes, but it's still more mockup...
Mär 10 17:18:42 rdieter	svahl:yes, that's fine
Mär 10 17:19:00 jreznik	I have to check plymouth, to have same splash
Mär 10 17:19:02 rdieter	jreznik: oh... I had assumed it was close to the final product by now.  bleh
Mär 10 17:19:39 jreznik	it's only to have something in beta at all
Mär 10 17:20:55 jreznik	I have some ideas for plymouth/splash/kdm, I'll write to artwork list... but from wallpaper it's really too difficult to do something...
Mär 10 17:21:09 jreznik	so yes, artwork/theming is still missing
Mär 10 17:21:18 ltinkl	they should have a beta release Mar 24 (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Artwork)
Mär 10 17:22:08 rdieter	ok, jreznik thanks for continuing to follow that.  keep us informed how things are going, and when/where you may need help
Mär 10 17:25:19 jreznik	ok
Mär 10 17:25:30 than	jreznik, i tried to boot usb kde live image on my laptop with 512M, it took only 4 minutes!
Mär 10 17:25:32 rdieter	oh, <nag alert> than, still awaiting a progress report regarding faster boot, kde startup </nag> :)
Mär 10 17:26:06 jreznik	than: interesting
Mär 10 17:26:07 rdieter	than: that matched my experience using kdm as well
Mär 10 17:26:34 than	i don't know how it takes to long on your laptop
Mär 10 17:26:38 jreznik	I have screwdriver here, I'll test it
Mär 10 17:26:53 rdieter	I'd venture using cd media would be a bit slower
Mär 10 17:27:26 jreznik	it was unusable from usb... oh no, I don't have my bag with screewdriver... I'll take it home
Mär 10 17:29:38 rdieter	anything else for today?
Mär 10 17:30:45 ltinkl	just a quick note: KDE 4.2.1 has been pushed into updates-testing
Mär 10 17:32:07 rdieter	it's bit, so not surprising to be taking a bit to filter to mirrors
Mär 10 17:32:11 rdieter	it's big... that is
Mär 10 17:32:51 svahl	and also a short summary from yesterdays irc regarding the kde live images: Kevin_Kofler added a "Provides: dbus-bluez-pin-helper" to kdebluetooth. So from now on gnome-bluetooth won't be pulled onto the images which saves ~10 megs of space
Mär 10 17:33:39 svahl	So this one will be the packagelist for F11beta: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SebastianVahl/CurrentPackageList
Mär 10 17:34:04 svahl	amarok is still on the images and the x86_64 is also under 700 megs
Mär 10 17:34:15 ltinkl	nice work
Mär 10 17:34:21 rdieter	add kdebluetooth as default to kde-desktop in comps ?
Mär 10 17:34:38 rdieter	I noticed it seems to be not in comps-f11 at all.
Mär 10 17:34:40 *	jamundso floats back to blocker query - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=Fedora&product=Fedora&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=MODIFIED&bug_status=ON_DEV&bug_status=ON_QA&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=FAILS_QA&bug_status=RELEASE_PENDING&bug_status=POST&field0-0-0=blocked&type0-0-0=anywordssubstr&value0-0-0=446452
Mär 10 17:35:31 svahl	rdieter, in my tests yesterday bluez pulled in kdebluetooth. But I don't know what will happen when the gnome-bluetooth maintainers change sth
Mär 10 17:35:32 rdieter	I'm going to add it, since bluez is default in "base"
Mär 10 17:36:57 svahl	ok
Mär 10 17:37:47 rdieter	one thing folks have asked about too, is to add some more screensavers to the default kde install.
Mär 10 17:38:16 rdieter	any objections to adding kdeartwork-extras as default in comps too?    (we still likely want to *not* include that in live images)
Mär 10 17:39:34 rdieter	interestingly, we also have no kdeedu bits in kde-desktop either.
Mär 10 17:40:03 rdieter	tell ya what, I'll analyze this further, and come back with some recommendations post-beta.
Mär 10 17:40:07 svahl	none objections here. But please ping me when you did the change so I can also add the removal to the kickstart
Mär 10 17:40:24 than	rdieter, it's fine with me
Mär 10 17:40:25 rdieter	svahl: will do
Mär 10 17:40:54 svahl	jreznik, on the kde mailing list you also suggested splitting kdeartwork into some more subpackages that could be added to the live images. 
Mär 10 17:41:25 jreznik	svahl: yes and I think it could help a lot
Mär 10 17:41:51 svahl	Have you done any work there? I could also have a look for post-beta
Mär 10 17:41:58 svahl	or help
Mär 10 17:43:58 jreznik	if we want it I can prepare it for post beta
Mär 10 17:45:16 svahl	+1 here
Mär 10 17:45:17 rdieter	alright, let's wrap up for today, and take further discussion to #fedora-kde
Mär 10 17:45:37 rdieter	KDE SIG Meeting End, thanks all.
Mär 10 17:45:57 jreznik	ok
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